metronome in qtractor

Hello Rui!

I've just installed qtractor from the Debian Unstable repo. I've been looking around and checking things out, and I have been very impressed so far.

I see in the toolbar that you can set bpm information for the song, but I cannot find a place to set metronome parameters. Can you help?

Thank so much,

Josh

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Re: metronome in qtractor

I think you're referring to meter or time signature of the session (song). In that case you can look into File/Properties... as for the current session properties.

You can set the "Beats per Bar" value which corresponds to the numerator (upper number) of the time signature. Default is the popular 4/4 ;) Please note that you have access to this value only (beats or quarter-notes per measure). As for the denominator (the lower number) there's no real need to make it any more specific. For just that I believe you can have get away with the "Snap per Beat" feature when placing or lengthning your notes ;)

HTH
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rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela

Rui, No, I'm actually

Rui,

No, I'm actually referring to a timekeeping mechanism that "clicks" on each quarter note, just like a standard metronome would. In Rosegarden this is labeled "metronome", and can be configured to use an audio click or a MIDI click on channel 10 (typically the drum channel). Does this make sense? :)

Josh Lawrence
http://www.hardbop200.com

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hydrogen

you can use "a workaround" what I'm using. Connect hydrogen into jackd and run its "clicks".

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Aha, metronome clicks

Aha, metronome clicks.

Sorry for the mistake. And sorry again for not having that metronome gadget feature, yet ;)

Will do that. Meanwhile, you can do it "by hand", by having a special MIDI track/clip for just emulating a metronome. In fact that's what I do for the moment. However it does not exactly work as a pre-roll before recording, but that's another feature to be thought about ;)

Cheers and thanks for heads-up.
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rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela

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Metronome is in

As of today, a rudimentary MIDI metronome is now in place (CVS); parameters, like MIDI channel, bar and beat accent note, velocity and duration, are readily configurable from the main menu, View/Options.../MIDI/Metronome dialog. Beware, although it's barely working as advertised, it is also not perfect nor quite reliable, but it works, sometimes at least :)

cheers,
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rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela

Audio metronome

Hi rncbc,
I've been messing around with qtractor now for about 6 wks, and wow, you have done a very nice job. I wish the qjackctl Connect dialog worked as well as it does in Qtractor. Very sweet indeed!

Regarding the metronome, I hope you will add the ability to use two audio samples for an audio metro, in addition to the MIDI metro.

BTW, do you ever visit the #lad channel on irc.freenode.org?

Keep up the good work!
Lexridge

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Re: Audio metronome

Wow, 6 weeks? that is certainly enough time for finding bugs around. Hope you have them all waiting to be reported at will... Thanks :)

I confess that sampled audio metronome was not on the near horizon. But having a second thought it should have a right place, maybe when audio file pre-audition gets implemented. This is about playback of sample files that are not in the session time-line, eg. files in the files widget. Meanwhile you'll have to live with the MIDI metronome ;)

Regarding #lad irc channel: I used to be there but my current day-life-sort-of-business does not allow it as often as I wish or should. I only have a couple of hours per day to hack on this stuff, and you can guess how much of that is dedicated to introspection :) And to have a laugh at me, it's just a damn irony how I spend most of the time hacking instead of making some music, which was the main issue of this damn hobby :D

Cheers
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rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela

Re: Audio Metronome

I have found a few bugs, but as I keep updating via CVS, I see more of more of them getting stomped.

I too am short on time, and I've not actually attempted a full recording project within qtractor. That would be the way to most efficiently test for bugs.

When you do implement the audio metronome, it would be great if it could be assigned to any Jack audio output as well. I use this feature in Ardour, and route the click track to my Center speaker, keeping it away from the stereo mix. Very useful!

Thanks!
Lexridge

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Stomped Bugs

It would be nice to know about those stomped bugs you've seen, nevertheless. I'm sure there are still plenty that aren't given enough attention and are hidden beyond the curtains. I've found some before that were lurking for ages. Only when I get to do some real use, not necessarily in twisted ways, those nasties get actually noticed. So, any help will be welcome in this hunt. ;)

ThankU2.
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela

Stomped Bugs

Hi rncbc,
Sorry for the delay in replying. I've not had much time for audio recording in past several weeks. The broadcasting company I work for had purchased two stations (one tv, one radio), and I've been very busy moving them from their old facilities to our new one.

I wish I could remember what bugs I had discovered, but in day to day life, without keeping a log of them, I cannot remember any but one.....nor can I tell you what version that was in at this point. But there were a few cvs builds I had compiled that failed to connect to the JACK server. This of course has been fixed for quite a while.

I will try to keep better record keeping of this for you in an attempt to allow you to build a killer application. :)

Also, I hate to load you down with lots of suggestions, but I can if you will let me. ;) Having been a regular Samplitude user for many years (from the Amiga to Windows), it has lots of features I would love to see in a Linux DAW. Samplitude is the BEST Win32 DAW available. Yes, this is an opinion, but one shared by many audio professionals. A Linux DAW with similar capabilities would put Linux audio into the mainstream. Something I would love see happen.

Keep up the great work!

Lexridge

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