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Hello there, everything in Qtractor is much more stable than other software....

Until i go head add some LADSPA plugins somewhat less stability but ok...

And LV2 and DSSI haa....Stability will be a joke and inturn "Segmentation Faults" are much more common.

So now actually what is my problem is frustation, less focused and I also fear that i may become mad very soon ;(

the problem is getting worse .....as i use Qtractor(or Any other Software)..the thing is that even if the plugin is poorly written can there be no resistance implemented to prevent plugin from crashing entire software & entire project & sometimes even OS(Although less common)..

Sad Cheers :(

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rncbc's picture

don't despair! :)

which plugins are giving you the (head)aches ?

please take a deep breath and start pinning which ones are systematic problem troublers and which part of it's to blame--as i think i said you before (eg. re. abGate), their fancy GUIs are often a source of crappy behavior.

however there are a (few) standard and stable ones which shall be considered rock solid. though. nevertheless.

if you're not finding any of those, that is, everything is troublesome on your perspective, then you/we must start to investigate why--as proverbial as it sounds, YMMV.

there's no doubt things do depend on a whole lot on here, where, how and who made the packaging and building. in other words, do you have a tight, trusted and secured stable system or is it a heap stack of a scrapyard every now and then? :)

first thing to ask (yourself) is, where did you get those plugins in the first place? are they fit to the system environment you're working on? what is your base distro? did you compile everything from source or did you installed all related packages from one single and trusty distro packager?

are you running a debug build of qtractor (./configure --enable-debug ...)? if not, try so. then, on each segfault you encounter, look at the stacktrace that is left behind on the console/terminal--that should help you/we find what to blame, whether a rogue plugin or qtractor itself:)

have fun && cheers

don't despair! :)
sure....:)

which plugins are giving you the (head)aches ?
i'll upload a list of them....soon..

however there are a (few) standard and stable ones which shall be considered rock solid.
Can u Name them Please.....

first thing to ask (yourself) is, where did you get those plugins in the first place? are they fit to the system environment you're working on? what is your base distro? did you compile everything from source or did you installed all related packages from one single and trusty distro packager?

Actually i first tried artistx,Ubuntustudio,AVlinux(Ya, i was once a distro geek) and guess what, i have the same frustation what i have now(except AVlinux), but assure u that i was feeling much better than Windows and Mac at Both system level and software level. But i simply do all these things out of curiosity, but i find it very tiresome to Download updates and compile and see errors and workarounds with the new things, So then i came across KXStudio everything was working well(yes i feel it as hybrid approach to both frustation with distros and tiresomeness with Compiling from scratch), i abondoned the idea of switching distros(also compiling things) and just trust one distro, go ahead and improve it.
The Community and falkTX Was very kind and helpfull so i just trusted the distro and soon(my curiosity turned in different direction this time with software). I don't even know why i switched to free/open source software(may be due to frustation with windows and mac).So now i tried Literally hundreds of software because i don't know y i came here, Then one of my friends had a piano in his house and playing it , I should confess that i felt jealous and came home and blindly declared to make my own music, But here is the catch i(and my family) not going to able afford to buy a complete keyboard kit(Not even MIDI keyboard) although my family never allowed me to become musician(or artist they simply imagined me as an engineer), and searched ...searched and finally came across some software(Ardour,Rosegarden,muse etc....),Although Ardour is fine tuned to audio production and does it very well, but i find it aweful to compose music, Finally came across Non-* things and felt that there are still humans alive on this earth,because it balances both simplicity and features, which are lacking in ardour(although now i think ardour is pretty much bloated),but soon it(Non) also became not suitable for what i have been looking for, Then came across qtractor and testing Qtractor 0.6.7, i used yoshimi and Qtractor for composing until i found the lv2, dssi plugins felt & disgusting for the decision made myself(by switching to plugins),But also felt that i am missing a manual(myself and/or others like me) so i decided to write a manual for qtractor and writing it, but the plugins are putting me off my work...:(.

Finally gnu/linux is pretty much Better than windows or mac(Atleast for me), So now i have learnt a lesson in the past(by switching distros and software) that no software is ever perfect(humans are not prefect then y should be the software they write) so instead of wasting time by looking for perfect software ,make a software I use perfect(atleast for me) , So currently Learning C++ and qt( i told u i don't know y i came here, just doing what i want to out of my curiosity) to first code the JACK-MIDI(and some MIDI things in qtractor to make 'mouse composition' make less painfull) but it's not going to happen any near(or if it is u would have done it already....)

That's it from me.....Thanks for the help

Bye

Cheers :) ;)

yPhil's picture

>> however there are a (few) standard and stable ones which shall be considered rock solid.
> Can u Name them Please.....

From my own experience (years, and many songs & albums yes, with QTractor)

- Stay away from VSTs. In fact, only use LV2 plugins. Yes, TAL Noisemaker is (very) fun but it will xrun eventually
- ZynaddSubFX can mangle your XML session file beyond readable. You are warned.
- Use up to date versions. Use KX repos. (http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories)
- Always keep on testing new stuff (like http://tytel.org/helm/) because at one point in time, it may become as stable and production-ready as the following list

What works: That means rock stable, easy control access (presets) and will save and restore your own settings.

- Calf Plugins (http://calf-studio-gear.org/) (a full console strip, lots of other fun stuff, and a couple of killer instruments)
- Vee suite (http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/node/580) SynthV1 is a monster sound factory disguised as a weekend project ;)
- KX repos plugins (http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Plugins) specifically the Disthro ones (This 3band Eq rules)

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