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hi Carl, I now believe that you're being fooled by one pretty old issues, for ages now...
1) jack "zero-copy" optimization, and
2) processing order of audio output buses.

please check the comments here on some topics of yore:)
Re:Feedback Noise when System Capture and Playback are Connected
re. 'Subgroup' problem
re. Qtractor : routing problem
re. Routing/Buss issues with LSP Multi Sampler

hth.
cheers