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An interesting comparison between Qsampler and Fantasia

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nice to know that people still dig up LinuxSampler after all these (15+?) years:)

anyway, yes, JSampler (Fantasia is a skin or style if you prefer) is quite top-notch in terms of eye-candy and some UX features that still get some (deserved) applause from users anytime.

QSampler, on the other hand, might not have that kind of sh*tty skeuomorphic looks whatever:) its primary goal is, as ever was, meant to talk to LS server as a client in the most straight-forward GUI fashion. QS also deals with LS on its plugin forms (dunno if JS does that as well, at least as in a seamless way, due to its dated, stalled development status).

But still, re. complaints from cfirwin3 on the video above, seems to be about failing to re-arrange the order of sampler channels strips; which is kinda false: you can move the strips anywhere you like as long you set Channels > Auto Arrange to off; another one is about QS not showing SF2 instrument preset names, which is also false. Maybe he needs to refresh the LS stack to the latest, which are LinuxSampler >= 2.1.1, libgig >= 4.2.0, liblscp6 >= 0.6.0 and QSampler >= 0.5.6 ;)

hth.
cheers

Very cool. I'm guessing he's going to be very happy to learn this. Thank you for the info.

Hey there!
I'm cfirwin3. This is what I have found. All of my backend components are up to date and I am using the Qsampler latest appimage. This appimage doesn't show sf2 preset names... but my install of v0.4.2 does. Neither version gives options either click drag, tab, or numerical entry dialogue to move channel graphically with the auto arrange disabled or enabled. Likewise the F5 function doesn't seem to have an effect. I notice that my installations don't appear to have upper tabs for each channel like the the website screenshots do.

Any help would be appreciated. I would much rather use Qsampler as it is in development.

Thanks!

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hi cfirwin3

maybe the AppImage is outdated wrt. libgig version, which is probably the case: the AppImage is built on ubuntu 16.04 xenial virtual machine for broader ABI compability; however it includes the system libs that are present and unfortunately that might well be an ancient libgig that lacks SF2 support (nb. it is libgig that provides access to SF2 names in Qsampler).

otoh. what is your current distro?

seeya

Thanks for that! I think I need to look at my libgig version. Any insight on where the most current repository would be for that?
I am on Lubuntu 10.04lts (I usually stick with the latest lts versions and I upgrade late... after the big bugs are addressed).

I am hoping to put up more YouTube content on the rncbc software projects as they can be used for orchestral composition and film scoring. I am finding that I prefer to go the old-school route with the plugins mapped through jack... leaving Qtractor to just be the great sequencer that it is. I would love to get Qsampler functioning fully.

I am on 18.04lts (don't know why I typed 10 there).

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then you can take advantage to my own Launchpad PPA's:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rncbc/bionic
sudo apt-get update

and then upgrade to the latest and greatest from git master (nightly UTC updates), directly from thy horse's mouth:

sudo apt-get install qsampler liblscp6 libgig9

besides all other qstuff (including qtractor of course).

cheers && good luck!

Do you know if the kxstudio repos conflict with your Launchpad PPA? I am finding that your PPA is added, but the only versions that show as the latest in synaptic after apt-get update are the KXstudio repo versions (which are behind). I've never seen a repository supersede another like that before.

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yes. there most probably are conflicts with the *old* kxstudio repos!

1. you should move to the newer ones anyway, but first remove/purge the old ones (not the packages though, only the apt sources).
2. then install the new kxstudio ones--please follow the instructions in https://kx.studio/Repositories ...
3. remove/uninstall any of the qstuff there still remaing...
4. update and install new qstuff at will :)

hth.
byee

ps. disclaimer: no debian/ubuntu expert here, so please forgive me anything ;)

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re. re-arrange the order of sampler channels strips; which is kinda false: you can move the strips anywhere you like as long you set Channels > Auto Arrange to off;

oops

as a matter of fact this is not true anymore, sorry to tell. my bad :( it was indeed only a few/lot of years ago, maybe in some arcane and ancient qt3/qt4 era, but not anymore, sorry: you cannot even drag+move the channel strips in qsampler and they always follow and keep in vertical order as created at the linuxsampler server engine--sorry again to mislead you in a wild-goose chase.

also though, there are no plans to make it any other way, sorry again. :(

cheers

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