This is just a quick idea but it may be very useful? Opinions are very welcome.
Here's the starting place...
Track is selected and mixer (track and bus) is focused as expected.
Below the Odin2 plugin, is a AUX Send. The associated bus is located quite far to the right in my mixer panel. In other words, I'd have to reach for the horizontal scroll bar in the mixer in order to find it when I want to get into any plugin(s) attached to the bus. This is tedious and boring so I wonder....
Perhaps if one were to click on an AUX Send in order to highlight it (seen below), the "focus" behavior of the mixer panel could be overridden and the associated Aux Send bus could take the focus?
What's nice about this is how easily one would be able to quickly bring the mixer focus back to the track (and associated bus) by simply clicking on the track again in the Arranger window.
Thoughts?
Multirow mixer
You can have a multirow mixer layout. That makes it easier.
I'd say that's harder on the…
I'd say that's harder on the eyes and less intuitive. It also doesn't scale. At the core of the request is the idea we should be spending less time "finding things" with our eyeballs while leaning into the software to guide us as needed.
re. Highlight Aux Send bus if selected...
wish granted: v1.5.7.19git.88cd35d
nb. you have no more wishes left (at least before v1.5.8 release :D)
cheers
No effect
Neither on my oldish Xubuntu nor on Debian Bookworm. Am I doing it wrong?
Kinda hard for me to make…
Kinda hard for me to make out what's what but I assume those are AUX Sends you're clicking on. If so, the associated bus should be given focus. I'm also assuming you've compiled the latest bits.
Yes
These are AUX Sends and I used the latest Qtractor, main branch with "git log" showing the patch.
Do I have to use a special theme? I use color scheme "default" and tried with style theme "Fusion" and "default".
I can't think of any reason…
I can't think of any reason focus wouldn't be shifting for you. Will let others chime in...
Same here I don't notice any…
Same here
I don't notice any change after compiling.
The new feature does nothing.
Ubuntu Studio Noble with XFCE.
re. Highlight Aux Send bus if selected...
here's a screencast demoing the expected effect...
hth.
No luck
I compiled the recent Qtractor on a Debian Trixie VM. No effect.
Maybe it's due to the Qt version. Debian Trixie comes with Qt 6.8.2.
Mystery solved
I've reviewed the code and there were changes in the comments about "double click."
It works, but if it's an Auxsend, you need a double click to get focus.
I think the expectation is that it will also work with a single click.
EDITED:
It should be a single click, because a double click is the action that opens the plugin window.
You'll most likely want to have the advantage of focus to monitor levels or modify gains on the destination, but you don't want to modify the AuxSend itself. Therefore, opening the window is a nuisance.
However, I don't know if the track focus and AuxSend focus conflict with each other, and if it's possible to fix it. I don't know if Qt has a way to prevent the click from staying on the clicked element and not reaching the parent.
Doesn't work
A doubleclick opens the AUX Send window but does not change anything else on my machines.
single click is the action...
yes, to (temporarily) highlight the target Aux-Send bus on the Mixer:Outputs pane.
br.
oh this is gonna be so cool!…
oh this is gonna be so cool! To the compiler!
Yea, that is so damn useful…
Yea, that is so damn useful and so natural in terms of navigating around. Thanks again!
re. Highlight Aux Send bus if selected (UPDATE)
indeed there were differences in behavior probably due to Qt version bundled in newer debian13 (trixie) (6.8.2); but not on older debian12 (bookworm) (6.4.2), which behaved quite similar, if not exactly to what is expected--tested under qemu/kvm.
anyway, made some changes and hopefully for the good: v1.5.7.20git.d34cf0 is the new ground base... please test && tell...
cheers
nearly perfect
1.) Click track -> output bus ist highlighted
2.) Click Aux Send -> Aux Send's destination bus is highlighted
3.) Click track again -> no change. Aux Send's destination bus is still highlighted
4.) Click another track -> see 1.)
So the remaining issue is 3.)
re. nearly perfect...
this is not going away anytime soon, so sorry... you'll need to click or select another track and then back to it to get exactly the output bus highlights you had originally as in 4.) then 1.)
yes, it's not exactly perfect, but that's life,... kinda minor issue I believe :)
cheers
Latest update is good. Works…
Latest update is good. Works like a charm and greatly lends to overall usability. Thanks again.
I'm sorry to pour a bucket of cold water on this notification
Now for Auxiliary Sends between buses, the destination bus is clearly visible. This is a great help.
However, for Sends between output buses, the destination bus should be highlighted, but not scroll.
Otherwise, we may find ourselves unable to edit the source Auxiliary Sends.
re. bucket of cold water...
fixed in v1.5.7.23git.fc99fe
enjoy
We can't have it all :)
But we lose the color highlighting, which was very useful.
Fine-tuning the highlights is a complex task; many elements come into play.
Maybe one day :)
re. can't have it all...
oh no, but we can have some or at least the most of it all :)
ntl.
Thank you for your work
Thank you for your work
Uhm, now I'm confused as the…
Uhm, now I'm confused as the functionality is no longer consistent. It seemed to be working fine? A single click (timeout exceeded) would move focus to the target bus and a double click (within timeout) would spawn the dialog (allowing for edit).
Now, there's this unpredictable behavior where sometimes it'll move the focus and other times it won't.
I'm also seeing a bit of a unintended side-effect where a previously selected aux plugin (and therefore, corresponding behavior) will persist so when the track is highlighted again (after highlighting another track), focus is moved to the aux bus. A good fix might be to "deselect" any/all plugins attached to a given track each and every time a track is selected. That would act as a kind of reasonable "reset".
re. confused…
maybe because the current highlighted plugin on each plugin-list box is maintained and it reflects on the highlighted bus (if it's an Aux-Send p-plugin)
it is now expected behavior as it also is when right-clicking on a plugin entry or navigating the list with up and down cursor arrows, not just a single (left-)click;
also that a bus remains highlighted even though you select the same and current track is mostly the situation @bluebell reported here earlier--it's a fact and it won't get "fixed" anytime soon. so sorry.
cheers
the only way to "reset" all buses highlights is to click on an empty space, either in the track list or in any mixer pane.
Clicked bus not highlighted
Today when I edited several buses, one after another, I noticed that they are not highlighted when I click them. So I had to remember which bus I edited last when I proceeded to the next one.
Klicking a bus should be the mightiest action that causes a bus to be hilighted, else editing buses feels like flying blind.
What do you mean by …
What do you mean by "clicking a bus"? I think you may have meant to say "clicking an Aux Send"?
No. Clicking a bus ...
... doesn't hilight the bus anymore.
re. Clicking a bus ...
... never highlighted a bus strip before; only tracks are highlighted on-demand (eg. by clicking on one)
byee
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